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Does anyone else feel like there's some comfort in the devil-you-know going into Obamarx' administration? Carla


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008...-thanksgiving/


The rumors are starting to sound like reality. President-elect Barack Obama is poised to nominate Hillary Clinton as secretary of state after Thanksgiving, sources in Obama's transition team say.

One week after the former primary rivals met secretly to discuss the idea of Clinton becoming the nation's top diplomat, the two sides were moving quickly toward making it a reality, barring any unforeseen problems.

One transition aide told The Associated Press that the two camps have worked out financial disclosure issues involving Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton, and the complicated international funding of his foundation that operates in 27 countries. The aide said Obama and Hillary Clinton have had substantive conversations about the secretary of state job.

A transition aide confirmed those details to FOX News.

Clinton has been mulling the post for several days, but the transition aide's comments suggested that Obama's team does not feel she is inclined to turn it down.

Some Democrats and government insiders have questioned whether Clinton is too independent and politically ambitious to be an effective secretary of state. But Obama is said to admire her talents and experience, as do many other Democrats.

Clinton would have to surrender her New York Senate seat, which she has held for eight years, to take the job.

Clinton spokesman Philippe Reines would not comment Thursday night, except to say that anything about Cabinet appointments is for Obama's transition team to address.
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Another opinion! Carla

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle5183005.ece

From The TimesNovember 19, 2008

Hillary is not the right woman for the job


Obama should resist the temptation of Clinton as Secretary of State. He could never sack herBronwen Maddox
There is an old principle that you shouldn't hire someone you can't fire. That is why Barack Obama would make a huge mistake if he were to pick Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State.

It's not that the choice would be terrible for US foreign policy. She would surely do an excellent job - thorough, detailed, tenacious - as she has in her eight years as senator for New York. But it would hand the rebuilding of America's worldwide reputation - one of the defining themes of Mr Obama's campaign and presidency - to someone who has her own strong views. Not disastrous views, at all, from what we know. But different from his; sometimes subtly, sometimes sharply, and very definitely hers.

It has taken two weeks since Mr Obama's victory for the Hillary problem to boil to the surface. In that time Democratic Washington has slid from euphoria into hyperanxiety, as people jostle for the 8,000 administration jobs (and that's before counting the Democratic jobs on Capitol Hill). The Washington Post, which devotes a couple of pages a day to speculation on who's up and who's down, noted on Thursday, under the headline “Grab a Chair”, that a huge reshuffle of Senate committee chairmanships looked like leaving Mrs Clinton with nothing. “Nada? Zip?” it asked, despite her seniority and the efforts she made (eventually) to help Mr Obama to defeat John McCain.

In the past five days, she has shot to the top of the list for Mr Obama's foreign policy supremo, rivalling Senator John Kerry, the failed 2004 presidential candidate, and Bill Richardson, Governor of New Mexico and primary contender. Better in the tent than out, seems to be the Obama team's thinking.

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Up to a point. Yes, she could do some damage if spurned. When Mr Obama talks about bipartisanship, that means not just reaching over to Republicans but to Democrats alienated by the bitter primaries. Those include women of Mrs Clinton's generation, and her assertive brand of feminism, who felt that her race meant their time had come.

Even more important may be the white working-class voters who backed her. To the end, Mr Obama never won their support. But to survive the ferocious battles of this recession, he will need all Democrats in Congress on his side. He may have to reach over their heads, too, and call on popular support for tough measures in tough times. He will need those who wanted Mrs Clinton.

It is true, too, that she knows a lot about foreign policy. Her worst campaign mistake trail was to claim that she had arrived in Bosnia under gunfire (and not to realise that footage of the cheerful welcoming committee inevitably existed). But to give her credit, she has pitched up in a lot of troublespots.

I saw her at her best in the Senate Armed Services Committee two years ago. The senators, grilling General John Abizaid, then head of Central Command, about Iraq, struggled to stick to their allotted six minutes, and to pose questions, not make speeches. Mr McCain was the worst, jabbing at the ceiling and breaking into a shout at unseen enemies, a disturbing spectacle in the quiet room. Not Mrs Clinton. She took the general to task for all but contradicting himself in his desire to assent to every option. You'd be delighted to have her as a lawyer.

So she would do the US proud as Secretary of State. But she wouldn't help Mr Obama as president. She wouldn't flatter him; she wouldn't really defer to him; she might challenge him, even though she couldn't actually upstage him.

The rapturous reception that Mr Obama has received in much of the world is based on his promise of change. He says that he is the face of a new America; does he really want to be represented by one of the most familiar faces of the past? Or by anyone who will compete with him (and eclipse Joe Biden, the Vice-President and a foreign affairs specialist)? Foreign policy these days is an intimate affair, carried out between leaders, on the phone, or in faux-friendly fishing trips. The Secretary of State role has become more technical, less independent. Ask Condoleezza Rice. Or David Miliband.

Would Mrs Clinton be happy to play that role? Surely not. It is inevitable that she would disagree with Mr Obama, on substance as well as style. After all (as he endlessly reminded voters), she backed Iraq at the start, where he opposed it. She will have her own views on the decisions of her husband's presidency (the Middle East, Balkans, North Korea), many well judged, but messy in their legacy. Come to that, Bill will have even stronger views.

On that note, her husband's complicated hinterland could bring its own problems. Mr Obama's team is now said to be asking about conflicts of interest that his connections might now cause her. If they exist, wouldn't they have also been a problem for her as president? Sure, but he might have more incentive to simplify them brutally if she were in the White House, than if she were merely Secretary of State.

Mr Obama can't really afford to offer Hillary the prize of Secretary of State. Yet for her (and her husband), it is a long way short of the prize she so recently thought she would get. She will resent Mr Obama. And he won't be able to get rid of her.
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Let the games begin!! And go take a look at the photo in this article. Hill looks a bit maniacal! Carla
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5201405.ece

The TimesNovember 21, 2008

Hillary and Bill Clinton drama begins to tarnish Barack Obama's takeover
Uncertainty still surrounds Hillary Clinton's role in the Obama administration

Tim Reid and Tom Baldwin in Washington
Barack Obama sought to stamp out signs of discord yesterday as his team blamed Bill and Hillary Clinton for tarnishing the presidential transition with the type of psychological drama and leaks that marked their years in the White House.

As the uncertainty over whether Mrs Clinton would accept the job of Secretary of State dragged on, aides from both camps were engaged in anonymous briefings that echoed the bitter exchanges of their marathon primary battle earlier this year.

After the Obama camp let it be known that one potential stumbling block for the former First Lady was her husband’s overseas financial ties and list of foreign donors to his presidential library, Mr Clinton said he had agreed to all the conditions that had been sought by the transition team - including handing over a list of more than 200,000 benefactors. “I’ll do whatever they want,” he said.

Some in the Obama team saw that as a manoeuvre to box in the President-elect by forcing him formally to offer Mrs Clinton the post. Mr Obama is said to have known exactly what he was getting into when he discussed the job with Mrs Clinton during a meeting in Chicago last week, and is confident enough in himself to make such a bold gesture to his former rival. A Gallup poll showed that 57 per cent of Americans favoured the move.


Mr Obama has scarcely been seen this week while he puts together his administration. Instead, news has been dominated by a series of leaks about Cabinet appointments: Eric Holder for the post of Attorney-General; Tom Daschle for Health; Janet Napolitano, the Arizona Governor, for Homeland Security; and possibly Penny Pritzker for Commerce.

There was growing speculation last night that Mr Obama might keep Robert Gates, President Bush’s Defence Secretary - a decision that will be unpopular with the liberal, antiwar wing of the Democratic Party.

Such disclosures are a departure for Mr Obama’s team which for two years ran an extraordinarily tight campaign but is now struggling to maintain discipline as it moves, in the words of one senior Democrat, “from a family business to multinational corporation”.

In vain, advisers have been ordered to shut up. John Podesta, the head of the transition team, said: “If you leak, you’re gone.” Even so, murmured complaints can be heard about the number of Clinton-era officials who are being lined up for top jobs. Having campaigned so hard and for so long on a message of change rather than experience, Mr Obama appears to have reversed course in the past fortnight.

This week, though, has been overshadowed by the psychological “will-she, won’t she?” drama surrounding Mrs Clinton. It does not augur well for cooperation between his much vaunted “team of rivals” that the Clinton and Obama camps are already pointing the finger of blame at each other.
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